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Post by stevepdefender123 on Dec 22, 2012 10:49:39 GMT -5
Hope you dont mind me adding this Jim your forum and that. Can people that are planning on going it you ve got 5 mins can you please post a picture of your land rover. Its mainly for fun but also has advantages and disadvantages so everyone can see whos got what And what they might be missing. [/img]http://forum.landrovernet.com/showthread.php/234089-Morocco-2013-vehicle-prepartion-For-this-forum?p=1818140#post1818140 Sorry its hard work to add a picture so my landies on this link.
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Post by stevepdefender123 on Dec 22, 2012 10:54:41 GMT -5
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Post by Jim Franklin on Dec 22, 2012 21:12:03 GMT -5
I have to stress something, this trip is not purely about a jolly round the country in the normal sense journey's several of us have already done. One of the aims is to get as high in the mountains as is both safe and practicable, that is why several of us will be taking telescopes and other optical equipment. The roads in the mountains, off the highways, are a minefield of semi-dirt track on rock to boulder strewn shakers that have to be negotiated carefully to avoid vehicle damage or worse. I do not propose to go where it is obvious vehicle damage would occur, being stuck at 3000m in a remote mountain location is not what I intend, as such there are some things all of us need to pay attention to and some spares we all must consider; - Tyres need to be decent quality and reasonably new to not only ensure decent traction, but that the sidewalls can withstand the beating they may face. A Quality spare and perhaps a tyre repair kit would be strongly advised. The condition of the tyre is more important than the size. about 235 is adequate for all conditions likely to be faced.
- Compressor:-Decent one, not one of Halfords own. It is likely that tyre inflation pressures may be adjusted so you need a decent unit that can deal with the workload.
- Suspension: Crucial it is in tip top condition, if yours has any weakness, the mountain tracks will find it and brake it.
- Brakes:-Ensure the pads are reasonably new and can handle the workload, Ensure hoses are tucked away, if these get snagged you could loose break pressure, ensure your hand brake is more than adequate. A couple of spare brake hoses would be a wise choice with some DOT4 or DOT5 fluid.
- Bushes:- The generic rubber bushes for dampers and joints only cost a few pounds, well worth the investment because these can and will fail if they have any weakness in them. These are some seriously hard roads high up.
- Lift Kit:-Do not need it, ground clearance is king in the mountains, and your more likely to roll it with a higher centre of mass.
- Spare lamps:- Mandatory if your elect to drive through France anyway, but mandatory from a common sense perspective too.
- Diff, Tank, sump and Steering guards are really an absolute for being on the high rocky tracks, repairing a diff, sump, steering or fuel tank in the field is no laughing matter: I do not recommend Aluminium ones, steel withstands the rock damage better.
- Drive shaft boot: These silicone boots slide over the prop-diff joints and provide dust protection, but importantly they will cushion the blow of an errant rock too, less likely to damage the flange, rubber or bolts then.
- Service the vehicle before departure, ensure that your totally happy with the diff, transmission and engine lubricants, they will all be worked hard on this trip, better to be safe than sorry.
- STEEL WHEELS:- You cannot straighten an Alloy wheel...once cracked or impacted badly, it's a few £ worth of scrap.
- CB:- All vehicle MUST have a CB fitted so we can talk to each other!!
- Recovery Points a MUST, as is a decent recovery strap (8M) as are decent shackles, not cheap ones. Recommend at least a 4.75T capacity.
Of course spares are crucial for the obvious things, and as Bill said, these need to be things that can be reasonably changed at the roadside or by a reasonably competent person with a garage. Wheel Bearings, UJ's, Track rods and things that spring to mind as taking a battering in the past, protection should stop the track rods, but errant rocks can be a bitch getting up inside to wreak havoc trapped in the steering guard.(Not common, but have seen it happen a couple of times). - Track Rod Ends (outside of protection)
- Two Wheel bearings.
- UJ's
- Brake Hoses
- Fuel filter
- Oil Filter
- Engine Oil
- Lamps
- Brake fluid
- Small amount of Diesel resistant rubber pipe to effect fuel line repairs in field, don't forget jubilee clips for same. (1m is sufficient and about half a dozen clips)
- Rad seal: in case the unthinkable happens.
- Puncture repair kit
- Quality hydraulic jack or Exhaust jack (Farm Jacks are not always ideal in the mountains)
- Ability to carry at least 40L of clean water (You may need some for a damaged rad!)
- Reasonable tool kit, 10-19mm spanners, grips, screw drivers, pliers, circlip pliers, stanley knife and blades, perhaps a small 1/2 socket set. 27mm Socket and long handled bar for wheel removal, LED torch. Length of old carpet or a "runner" to put on the ground if your in the mountains and it's rocky or wet. (You may be swearing, but no need to be pocked by rocks or get socked)
That's for starters, it's 02:00 hrs so I'm off to bed. Will post more tomorrow.
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Post by paul200tdi on Dec 28, 2012 10:46:51 GMT -5
hi all, i'll add a pic of my 300tdi disco in next few days, but its a caplable motor which i built from chassis up last yr with whole idea trips abroad, sleeping in my roof tent. not certain yet if be able to do this trip but giving it major thought at mo, and hopefully will come. i've like the idea of doing the astromany part, something i've wanted to try for long time.
speak soon
paul
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Post by charliedenny on Dec 30, 2012 8:55:49 GMT -5
other things to take, Grab bag containing 2ltrs of water and some energy bars, passport vehicle documents, sun cream, mobile and a hat. this is in-case you have to exit the vehicle in a hurry, Fiches peice of A3 with both your details and the vehicle details something like this: www.morocco-overland.com/fiche.docI have a copy if any body needs one (email me charles(dot)denny48(at)virgin(dot)net you will need them more in the southern part of Morocco, but useful when checking into campsites. plenty of water, I was given 60 2l bottles and used most of them, I also took Ribena as this made drinking water more interesting, I am sure there will be more but I will expand if I remember
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Post by charliedenny on Jan 1, 2013 15:11:12 GMT -5
more things that are mandatory in Morocco!
seatbelts must be worn if fitted, a florescent tabbard for all occupants of the vehicle, first Aid kit fire extinguisher oh and the bulb kit!
the police sometimes check for these Items so worth having them if you don't then a fine is in order! we were only asked once and that was in Senegal but in remote areas of Morocco the police can get bored!!
other things I took: lots of baby wipes (it is nice to have a baby wipe bath) bottle of hand sanitiser, lots of loo roll sun block (after sun is useful as well) lots of small gifts for handing out at check-points most popular were pens but hats, small teddies and anything else can make life easier!
diary/journal (for those thoughts!!)
I took boxes of food 1 for each week of travel with things like UHT milk, beans, tins of chicken in various sauces, tinned spuds, tinned peas and some sort of pudding: custard, rice, tinned fruit, also some little luxuries like marmalade! the bread out in Morocco is flat elephants foot and can be bought in any town and is really good,
will keep updating as I go on
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Post by charliedenny on Jan 2, 2013 14:35:45 GMT -5
another thing I remembered was international driving permits, here is a link to the AA website: www.theaa.com/getaway/idp/you can send away for them or as I did go to an issuing post office.
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Post by stevepdefender123 on Jan 2, 2013 18:49:08 GMT -5
Apart from the tank guard i seem to have everything on the list. Will need a couple of water cans cause iv only got a second hand one which leaks. Oh and a CB. Dont get me started on lift kits! Ok i suppose if you never drive on the road. Im planning on trying everything out camping wise and seeing whats what. Seen a couple of expedition DVDs Which mainly seems to be throw your money at expensive things. When i want to make sure my cars in tip top condition first. Tho a cheaper one showed everything basic even with out a roof tent! Tho that bloke had a land crusser. Im busy at the moment preparing my trial car for the exeter trial. Il keep you updated soon.
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